Gay Rights (thanks dhud98)

[ladyjendifi]

"Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?"
- Ernest Gaines

We would like to know who really believes in gay rights on LiveJournal. There is no bribe of a miracle or anything like that. If you truly believe in gay rights, then repost this and title the post as "Gay Rights". If you don't believe in gay rights, then just ignore this. Thanks.

Comments

[dgtlghost.livejournal.com]

While I like the quote, I can't bring my self to post it.

I don't believe in Gay rights. I don't think anyone deserves "special" rights that no one else gets. I believe in equal rights where everyone is treated as humans and that all citizens deserve to be treated with respect and equality under the law.

So, I want to let you know that I support the idea, but cannot bring myself to post the statement.

[erinlefey.livejournal.com]

Agreement. On that same notion, I hate the concept of "hate crimes". I don't care that someone killed me because I was a particular color or orientation. The thought process is irrelevant. Prosecute them because they killed somebody. One can presume they disliked me in some way, after all. :)

[ladyjendifi.livejournal.com]

If people were prosecuted for hate crimes like they are for other equally awful violent acts, then I would agree, but they are not. If the thought process makes the crime okay, whether judically or socially, then isn't it relevant?

[erinlefey.livejournal.com]

That's the core of my concern about it. The thought process SHOULDN'T be a factor, at all. Much though I would like there to be a "He needed killin'" rule, there isn't one. If I kill someone, for any reason, I should be convicted and given whatever sentence society has deemed appropriate.

Does the current process work? No. But tacking hate crimes additions on to current laws seems much like duct-taping a broken fender. Just fix the durned fender. :)

[ladyjendifi.livejournal.com]

Same with women's rights or minority groups' rights. No one in those groups is asking for anything special that "no one else gets"; they are actively seeking those rights that have been given to some but not themselves. It seems like an issue of semantics to me, but do what you gotta do.

[dgtlghost.livejournal.com]

And I'd rather consider myself a champion of Human Rights than any sub-cause. I don't see a need for "women's rights" or "gay rights" when we've got it in the US Constitution that "All persons born or naturalized in the United States and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the State wherein they reside. No State shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any State deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."

More over, it is frequently overlooked that the document also says: "The enumeration in the Constitution, of certain rights, shall not be construed to deny or disparage others retained by the people."

All we need to do is live up to that promise, and we're pretty damned close to what most "** Rights" activists are after.

10 Reasons Why Gay Marriage is Wrong...

[barrucuda.livejournal.com]

01) Being gay is not natural. Real Americans always reject unnatural things like eyeglasses, polyester, and air conditioning.

02) Gay marriage will encourage people to be gay, in the same way that hanging around tall people will make you tall.

03) Legalizing gay marriage will open the door to all kinds of crazy behavior. People may even wish to marry their pets because a dog has legal standing and can sign a marriage contract.

04) Straight marriage has been around a long time and hasn't changed at all; women are still property, blacks still can't marry whites, and divorce is still illegal.

05) Straight marriage will be less meaningful if gay marriage were allowed; the sanctity of Britany Spears' 55-hour just-for-fun marriage would be destroyed.

06) Straight marriages are valid because they produce children. Gay couples, infertile couples, and old people shouldn't be allowed to marry because our orphanages aren't full yet, and the world needs more children.

07) Obviously gay parents will raise gay children, since straight parents only raise straight children.

08) Gay marriage is not supported by religion. In a theocracy like ours, the values of one religion are imposed on the entire country. That's why we have only one religion in America.

09) Children can never succeed without a male and a female role model at home. That's why we as a society expressly forbid single parents to raise children.

10) Gay marriage will change the foundation of society; we could never adapt to new social norms. Just like we haven't adapted to cars, the service-sector economy, or longer life spans.

Here's a good question...

[vegasgrl13.livejournal.com]

Why is it in our culture we assume the two mans holding hands are gay?